[3937] in Release_7.7_team

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: We can buy the S50!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Long)
Thu Jul 17 22:04:44 2003

Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:04:42 -0400
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-729787942
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552)
Cc: owls@mit.edu, release-team@mit.edu
To: Bill Cattey <wdc@mit.edu>
From: Phillip Long <longpd@MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <1058479319.15076.106.camel@tokata.mit.edu>
Message-Id: <325D87F6-B8C4-11D7-9D99-000393B2A804@mit.edu>


--Apple-Mail-2-729787942
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=US-ASCII;
	format=flowed

Bill:
	This is good news. Your recommendation makes sense to me. It puts a 
bit of a premium on following a precise sequence during the 
installation, but that shouldn't be too onerous.
	phil

On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 06:01 PM, Bill Cattey wrote:

> IBM today delivered the exact test system.
> I confirmed that the new installer successfully installs the system.
>
> One snag:  I was a teeny bit careless and didn't notice that the
> system ships with a USB scroll-wheel optical mouse instead of the
> basic PS2 3 button mouse.
>
> Popular linux lore is that USB mice "just work".
> Well that's fine if you don't mind waiting an extra half minute for the
> X server to start!
>
> This probably is not a big deal for private systems, but I think it
> would be an issue for quickstations, and probably with clusters.  My 
> own
> sense was, "What's wrong?  Why isn't X starting?".
>
> IBM has agreed to take up the slack and hand us different mice rather
> than starting the custom configuration clock again.
>
> Mitch and I have done additional testing, and our current observation 
> is
> that if you install with a PS2 mouse plugged in, the USB mouse works
> fine thereafter.  What's probably going on is that the mouse discovery
> logic is inverted.
>
> QUESTION:  Do we want to request a DIFFERENT custom build with the ole
> reliable mouse?
>
> RECOMMENDATION: NO.  Let's just go with what we have, install PS2 mice
> to start, and continue to pursue a software remedy, expecting USB mice
> to be ok long term.
>
> -wdc
>
>
Phillip D. Long, Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu
Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise
MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038
77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665
Cambridge, MA 02139

--Apple-Mail-2-729787942
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/enriched;
	charset=US-ASCII

Bill: 

	This is good news. Your recommendation makes sense to me. It puts a
bit of a premium on following a precise sequence during the
installation, but that shouldn't be too onerous.

	phil


On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 06:01 PM, Bill Cattey wrote:


<excerpt>IBM today delivered the exact test system.

I confirmed that the new installer successfully installs the system.


One snag:  I was a teeny bit careless and didn't notice that the

system ships with a USB scroll-wheel optical mouse instead of the 

basic PS2 3 button mouse.


Popular linux lore is that USB mice "just work".

Well that's fine if you don't mind waiting an extra half minute for the

X server to start!


This probably is not a big deal for private systems, but I think it

would be an issue for quickstations, and probably with clusters.  My
own

sense was, "What's wrong?  Why isn't X starting?".


IBM has agreed to take up the slack and hand us different mice rather

than starting the custom configuration clock again.


Mitch and I have done additional testing, and our current observation
is

that if you install with a PS2 mouse plugged in, the USB mouse works

fine thereafter.  What's probably going on is that the mouse discovery

logic is inverted.


QUESTION:  Do we want to request a DIFFERENT custom build with the ole

reliable mouse?


RECOMMENDATION: NO.  Let's just go with what we have, install PS2 mice

to start, and continue to pursue a software remedy, expecting USB mice

to be ok long term.


-wdc



</excerpt><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>Phillip D. Long,
Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu

Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise

MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038

77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665

Cambridge, MA 02139</fontfamily>


--Apple-Mail-2-729787942--


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post