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Re: Tex IP attribution error on startup page

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Long)
Wed May 7 16:10:16 2003

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Oliver: Thanks. I will pursue with our library colleagues the perceived 
conflict.

	phil

On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Oliver Thomas wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:37 PM, Greg Hudson wrote:
>> I'm not sure what you mean by the "tex startup page."  Users who run 
>> tex
>> do not automatically receive any message about owership of 
>> intellectual
>> property as far as I know (contrary to what Oliver said).
>
> I admit it, I haven't run tex in a while....
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:29 PM, Phillip Long wrote:
>> Oliver: Yup - I got this info in a voice mail from Vijay via the 
>> library. I'll relisten and forward it to you to listen to, as well.  
>> Perhaps we should push back but the request was clear.
>
> If it is indeed about the thesis templates, then I am the de-facto 
> owner of it. It used to be owned by the FL's, then it went into limbo 
> a while ago and the last time updates needed to be made I was the one 
> who made them. However, the tex thesis template and the Libraries' 
> thesis guidelines seem to be aligned. The tex thesis template says, on 
> its cover page (/mit/thesis/tex/cover.tex):
>
>                              ==========
>              An Optimizing Compiler for Low-Level Floating
>                           Point Operations
>
>                                  by
>
>                        Lucien William Van Elsen
>
> Submitted to the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer 
> Science
>        in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of
>          Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Engineering
>
>                                at the
>
>                MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
>
>                               May 1990
>
>       (c) Lucien William Van Elsen, MCMXC. All rights reserved.
>
>     The author hereby grants to MIT permission to reproduce and
> distribute publicly paper and electronic copies of this thesis document
>                          in whole or in part.
>                              ==========
>
> The Libraries say (at 
> http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/thesis-specs/#copy):
>
>     The Institute's policy concerning ownership of copyrights
>     to theses is covered in Rules and Regulations of the
>     Faculty, regulation 2.71. The following are the relevant
>     provisions: the Institute will hold ownership of the copy-
>     rights to theses only if
>
>         1. the thesis research is performed in whole or in part
>     by the student with financial support in the form of wages,
>     salary, stipend, or grant from funds administered by the
>     Institute
>
>         and/or
>
>         2. the thesis research is performed in whole or in part
>     utilizing equipment or facilities provided to the Institute
>     under conditions that impose copyright restrictions.
>
>     In all other cases, ownership of copyright shall reside with
>     the student.
>
>     When copyright ownership is held by the student, the student
>     must, as condition of a degree award, grant royalty-free per-
>     mission to the Institute to reproduce and publicly distribute
>     copies of the thesis, and must place the following legend on
>     the thesis title page: "The author hereby grants to MIT per-
>     mission to reproduce and to distribute publicly paper and
>     electronic copies of this thesis document in whole or in part."
>
> Seems to be the same? You may want to take this back to them and find 
> out what they were talking about.
>
> Oliver
>
>
Phillip D. Long, Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu
Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise
MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038
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Oliver: Thanks. I will pursue with our library colleagues the
perceived conflict.


	phil


On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Oliver Thomas wrote:


<excerpt>On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:37 PM, Greg Hudson wrote:

<excerpt>I'm not sure what you mean by the "tex startup page."  Users
who run tex

do not automatically receive any message about owership of intellectual

property as far as I know (contrary to what Oliver said).

</excerpt>

I admit it, I haven't run tex in a while....


On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:29 PM, Phillip Long wrote:

<excerpt>Oliver: Yup - I got this info in a voice mail from Vijay via
the library. I'll relisten and forward it to you to listen to, as
well.  Perhaps we should push back but the request was clear.

</excerpt>

If it is indeed about the thesis templates, then I am the de-facto
owner of it. It used to be owned by the FL's, then it went into limbo
a while ago and the last time updates needed to be made I was the one
who made them. However, the tex thesis template and the Libraries'
thesis guidelines seem to be aligned. The tex thesis template says, on
its cover page (/mit/thesis/tex/cover.tex):


                             ==========

             An Optimizing Compiler for Low-Level Floating

                          Point Operations


                                 by


                       Lucien William Van Elsen


Submitted to the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer
Science

       in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of

         Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Engineering


                               at the


               MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY


                              May 1990


      (c) Lucien William Van Elsen, MCMXC. All rights reserved.


    The author hereby grants to MIT permission to reproduce and

distribute publicly paper and electronic copies of this thesis document

                         in whole or in part.

                             ==========


The Libraries say (at
http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/thesis-specs/#copy):


    The Institute's policy concerning ownership of copyrights

    to theses is covered in Rules and Regulations of the

    Faculty, regulation 2.71. The following are the relevant

    provisions: the Institute will hold ownership of the copy-

    rights to theses only if


        1. the thesis research is performed in whole or in part

    by the student with financial support in the form of wages,

    salary, stipend, or grant from funds administered by the

    Institute


        and/or


        2. the thesis research is performed in whole or in part

    utilizing equipment or facilities provided to the Institute

    under conditions that impose copyright restrictions.


    In all other cases, ownership of copyright shall reside with

    the student.


    When copyright ownership is held by the student, the student

    must, as condition of a degree award, grant royalty-free per-

    mission to the Institute to reproduce and publicly distribute

    copies of the thesis, and must place the following legend on

    the thesis title page: "The author hereby grants to MIT per-

    mission to reproduce and to distribute publicly paper and

    electronic copies of this thesis document in whole or in part."


Seems to be the same? You may want to take this back to them and find
out what they were talking about.


Oliver



</excerpt><fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>Phillip D. Long,
Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu

Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise

MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038

77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665

Cambridge, MA 02139</fontfamily>


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