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Re: Tex IP attribution error on startup page

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phillip Long)
Wed May 7 15:35:18 2003

Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:29:24 -0400
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Oliver: Yup - I got this info in a voice mail from Vijay via the 
library. I'll relisten and forward it to you to listen to, as well.  
Perhaps we should push back but the request was clear.

phil

On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Oliver Thomas wrote:

> That's odd. I seem to recall extensive discussion about this back when 
> I was still a student, which resulted in the Institute declaring that, 
> for the purposes of IP, Athena was an "insignificant resource", 
> similar to pencils or legal pads, and merely using Athena or the tools 
> available on it to produce something did not result in IP ownership by 
> the Institute. I believe that is the assumption Athena users have 
> operated under for a long, long time. TeX happens to point this out 
> explicitly. but this was a general position, if I recall, not tied to 
> any limitation as to which software on Athena did or did not count. 
> Did the Libraries have any backup for their position?
>
> Oliver
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Phillip Long wrote:
>
>> Hi: The Library has informed me that the start up page for Tex has a 
>> statement that says that the Intellectual Property ownership of stuff 
>> written in Tex is owned by the student. They claim that this should 
>> read that the ownership of things written in Tex belongs to the 
>> Institute, not the individual.
>>
>> We've been asked to correct this ownership attribution accordingly.
>>
>> If you need further clarification of this let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> 	phil
>>
>> Phillip D. Long, Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu
>> Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise
>> MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038
>> 77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665
>> Cambridge, MA 02139
>
>
Phillip D. Long, Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu
Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise
MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038
77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665
Cambridge, MA 02139

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Oliver: Yup - I got this info in a voice mail from Vijay via the
library. I'll relisten and forward it to you to listen to, as well. 
Perhaps we should push back but the request was clear.


phil


On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Oliver Thomas wrote:


<excerpt>That's odd. I seem to recall extensive discussion about this
back when I was still a student, which resulted in the Institute
declaring that, for the purposes of IP, Athena was an "insignificant
resource", similar to pencils or legal pads, and merely using Athena
or the tools available on it to produce something did not result in IP
ownership by the Institute. I believe that is the assumption Athena
users have operated under for a long, long time. TeX happens to point
this out explicitly. but this was a general position, if I recall, not
tied to any limitation as to which software on Athena did or did not
count. Did the Libraries have any backup for their position?


Oliver


On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 03:03 PM, Phillip Long wrote:


<excerpt>Hi: The Library has informed me that the start up page for
Tex has a statement that says that the Intellectual Property ownership
of stuff written in Tex is owned by the student. They claim that this
should read that the ownership of things written in Tex belongs to the
Institute, not the individual.


We've been asked to correct this ownership attribution accordingly.


If you need further clarification of this let me know.


Thanks,

	phil


Phillip D. Long, Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu

Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise

MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038

77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665

Cambridge, MA 02139

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Ph.D.					              -- longpd@mit.edu

Senior Strategist for the Academic Computing Enterprise

MIT - N42-005		  					        -- voice:617-452-4038

77 Massachusetts Avenue (street 211 Mass. Ave.)  --  fax: 617-253-8665

Cambridge, MA 02139</fontfamily>


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