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Re: Zephyr reverse-stacking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher D. Beland)
Tue Jul 17 16:22:05 2001

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To: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>
cc: aui@MIT.EDU, release-team@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: The events that comprise the history of the universe.
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:22:01 -0400
From: "Christopher D. Beland" <beland@MIT.EDU>


> It therefore seems to me that 71/167 (43%), or slightly less than
> half, of people who know about it use it.

Wow, that's an interesting statistic.  I bet some of the 57% are also
just being lame.  I also wonder how many of those people don't
actually use zwgc.

> As an aside, I sometimes feel like I'm one of the last holdouts who
> use windowgram zephyr for a large quantity of zephyrs ("zctl ret |
> wc -l" reports 332 for me right now, though that's probably
> misleading). I find the idea of reverseStack repugnant because it
> either prevents people from participating in fast-paced
> conversations (by the time they get to the last zephyr in a rapidly
> moving conversation, it has already been superceded), or worse, it
> encourages the behavior of multiple respondants all responding
> without having seen future replies, leading to needless duplication
> and annoyance. I tend to get really annoyed when someone answers a
> five-minute old question because they are using reverseStack and
> haven't come to all the previous answers yet.

I'm pretty surprised people don't bother to catch up before jumping
in.  I personally don't think I could cope if I had to reassemble
conversations in reverse order; I just don't have that much mental
RAM.

Ok, I'm not really suprised; I see it all the time.  Though on Gale
there's a special tag for messages when people do this; alas, Zephyr
technology and hence culture are not amenable to such features.

I like the idea of asking a bunch of naive users.  "Where can we find
some?"

-B.

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