[2824] in Release_7.7_team

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Reverse stacking zephyr

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher D. Beland)
Tue Jul 17 11:07:18 2001

Message-Id: <200107171503.LAA31613@Press-Your-Luck.mit.edu>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>
cc: release-team@MIT.EDU, aui@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: The events that comprise the history of the universe.
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:03:29 -0400
From: "Christopher D. Beland" <beland@MIT.EDU>


It seems to me that if you have a large pile of zephyrs on your
screen, chances are that they got there because you are "chatting".  I
don't know of anyone who uses Zephyr for any other purpose, except for
power users who can switch the behavior if they so desire.

I mean, if you use AIM all the time, and you get a Zephyr every once
in a long while to tell you that you are late for a meeting, then it
doesn't matter what behavior is enabled, since you will click away the
message or move it, anyway.  If you are a regular user, you will
probably want the chronological sort so your conversations read in
order.

Given the choice, I honestly think more people would chose the
"intuitively obvious" chronological behavior.  I also get the
impression that many people ignore Zephyr altogether, and use AIM
instead.

> Incidentally, we might want to reconsider making zwgc windows
> '(frame-type . border-only) as we do now.  Moving zephyrgrams around
> is important functionality, and we've pretty much taken it away from
> the user in the name of making zephyrgrams not take up as much
> space--again, something which is desirable for chatty usage but not so
> important for instant message usage.

This isindeed important, but with gtest, the current behavior seems to
be that zwgc windows have borders that are easy to grab.  Perhaps
something is broken somewhere in Sawfish again.

-B.

Disclaimer: I personally use Zephyr a lot, and my login makes zwgc
windows chronological, with border, and ::gasp:: in the taskbar.

===============================================================
Christopher Beland - http://web.mit.edu/beland/www/contact.html
MIT STS/Course 6 (EECS)   -   MIT Athena User Interface Project              
The Talk of MIT   **   http://web.mit.edu/beland/talk/talk.html
===============================================================


home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post