[2645] in Release_7.7_team
Re: Please strongly consider backing out the zephyr servers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Susan S. Minai-Azary)
Fri Mar 9 16:28:04 2001
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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:27:44 -0500
To: Garry Zacheiss <zacheiss@mit.edu>, Jonathan McIndoe Hunt <jmhunt@mit.edu>,
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From: "Susan S. Minai-Azary" <azary@MIT.EDU>
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Hi
I believe we have had a version server that has fallen in to disuse
that may help with this issue. Scott probably can answer questions
about this code and its former use.
Susan
At 11:12 AM -0500 3/9/01, Garry Zacheiss wrote:
> >> Is there a way to record who is connecting to the server from a
>>> WinZephyr client that is not doing the right thing such that we can
>>> send a directed communication to them to upgrade when we release the
>>> fully supported version?
>
> We can make an effort at this; the zephyr server keeps track of what
>IP addresses it believes it has clients from. Using this list and
>'zstat', we should be able to come up with an approximate list of
>Windows machines that are running a zhm at that time.
>
> I wouldn't want to do this frequently, though, and I am curious how
>much thought the Software Release Team has put into tracking usage of
>Windows and Macintosh packages that are released. Relying on
>server-side tracking of connecting clients might not be sufficient in
>all cases. Has thought been given to having the installer offer to add
>the user to a list of registered users of the software, and either send
>mail or add the user to a list using Webmoira, based on the answer to
>the question? This would seem to me a reasonable straightforward and
>good way of tracking users who are using released software and allowing
>us to send them information affecting their use of the package in
>question, without unduly violating the privacy of our users.
>
> I will attempt to collect a list of machines believed to be running
>Winzephyr from the zephyr servers sometime soon, although since it will
>only get users who are currently subscribed, I don't expect it to be a
>comprehensive list.
>
> Would it be possible to get a copy of the current version of
>Winzephyr that I may look at? I have access to the source for this
>program, but don't particularly feel like a building a copy myself.
>
>Garry