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Re: Please strongly consider backing out the zephyr servers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey I. Schiller)
Mon Mar 5 13:35:45 2001

Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:35:23 -0500
From: "Jeffrey I. Schiller" <jis@MIT.EDU>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>
Cc: John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu>, release-team@mit.edu, op@mit.edu,
        winzephyr-release@mit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <200103051749.MAA28112@egyptian-gods.MIT.EDU>; from ghudson@MIT.EDU on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:49:16PM -0500

Folks, this is going to give IS a black eye with our customers. Please
back out the changes, please do it today, before the storm. Thanks.

			-Jeff

On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:49:16PM -0500, Greg Hudson wrote:
> (cc changed from pismere to winzephyr-release per Tom's mail.)
> >   b) Reverting the code will break interrealm zephyr with CMU again.
> 
> Oh, we can pretty easily revert the checksum change without reverting
> all the interrealm stuff.  So the only issue is:
> 
> >   a) Reverting the code re-introduces a security vulnerability with
> >   respect to forging subscriptions.
> 
> Regardless of whether there are known exploits, I'd like this
> vulnerability gone.  I think reverting the server code is likely to
> mean the vulnerability will be with us for a very long time, since it
> will take the pressure off of fixing winzephyr.
> 
> If we have current winzephyr users who are not technically savvy
> enough to be prepared to upgrade, then that's unfortunate, because
> they are testers.  But there is a limit to how much IS should keep
> promises it never made.
> 
> > There is no currently available upgrade path (i.e. WinZephyr release
> > that correctly sends subscription messages authentically).
> 
> I've volunteered to help Ian fix the winzephyr code.  I don't know how
> fast he can put out a release.

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