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release team minutes, 1/5

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Winship)
Wed Jan 5 15:20:38 2000

Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:20:27 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200001052020.PAA276193@antharia.mit.edu>
From: Dan Winship <danw@MIT.EDU>
To: release-team@mit.edu

Attending: othomas, ajfox, danw, rbasch, jweiss, ghudson, aurora, wdc
| miki

1. Shared libraries

   ghudson: Last time we discussed this, Thomas claimed you could put
   runtime paths into shared libraries such that they'd end up in the
   programs linked against them. That doesn't seem to be true.

   Also, there are problems with krb5 libraries wanting to link
   against shared versions of com_err and ss if you build with shared
   libraries.


2. 8.3.24

   update changes from jweiss
   Irix NFS + cosmoplayer patches
   Solaris TCP patch
   ftpd -C
   detach fixes
   LPRng
   secret patch
   fix the previous syncconf and sadmind kludges
   ... ?

   everyone should make sure their patches are on this list.
   to the dev cell soon, to athena the 17th.

   mail should be sent about this release's panic potential on Suns
   (because of the tcp bug).


3. PWOG

   aurora: Miki asked to have local user stuff documented in the PWOG.
   The PWOG sources have comments saying that local user stuff
   shouldn't be documented because:

      - sysadmins that don't know what they're doing will create
        accounts for users who don't know what they're doing and have
        never seen the MITnet Rules of Use.

      - encouraging use of MIT resources by non-MIT people

      - could become a support sinkhole

      - if it's not officially supported, it shouldn't be documented

   miki: People can already do this on non-Athena machines. We should
   support doing it on Athena machines.

   jweiss: There's a difference between "support" and "allow".

   Some discussion... one of the major reasons some people want this
   is to have a uid to install a piece of software with. We agree that
   this is a very different problem from wanting to create local
   accounts for non-MIT users.

   wdc: I think keeping the information secret is wrong. We should
   just explain what we support and what we don't, and what is
   expected about local users. Anyway, we should punt this to owls.

   ghudson: And maybe ask a net-security person to come, to discuss
   their perspective on it.

   Bill will deal.


4. Irix 6.5.4 vs 300MHz O2 problem

   Bill rambles and then Greg realizes we're talking about going to
   Irix 6.5.4 in a patch release and vetoes it.


5. Status

   Linux - still no cluster product
   Desktop - meeting today
   PWS - we officially exist now


6. Bill says we should have an Athena word processor discovery project
   sort of thing, and we all agree it would be nice, although
   apparently Applix doesn't suck nearly as much as it used to.

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