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[Dan Geer: chfn / finger information generally]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Basch)
Sat Jan 27 22:39:10 1990

Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 22:38:44 -0500
To: bug-moira@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Cc: quality@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
From: Richard Basch <probe@MIT.EDU>


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From: geer@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 90 10:47:59 -0500
To: bugs@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject: chfn / finger information generally
Cc: athena-ws@ATHENA.MIT.EDU


this is just a comment that the database quality
of what chfn lets you do is long since functionally
obsolete and should be replaced.  a coordinated
facility with the phone book, registrar, and a 
follow on to ``finger'' is the need.  merely 
patching the finger protocol is a loser.

indicative examples:

	you cannot put a comma in one's full name (what about
		suffixes to one's name - like a degree or a ``Jr.''
		or the like)
	the office address stuff, e.g. the magic meaning of the
		trailing ``M'', is silly
	office telephones are requested with ``(Ex: 3-1300)'' as
		a model - when, in fact, the correct entry a user
		would make for the above is ``1300''
	the MIT department section is truncated (silently) at
		twelve characters, so that (example!) ``Project
		Athena'' becomes ``Project Athe'' despite the
		fact that the user interfact encourages entries
		``(Exs: 9, Biology, Information Services'' that
		cannot fit like that [and note the lack of a
		closing parenthesis in the above...]
	the home address example is instructive for a student at
		U Cal Berkeley, not MIT: ``(Ex: Atkinson 304)''
	much of the information, and other information that it
		might be useful to have, should be acl protected
		and under the user's control.  my home phone, 
		for immediate example, is something i would be
		happy to have available to staff if i could also
		exclude the hoi polloi.

and no discussion of ``finger'' would be complete
without acknowledging one's (relatively useless)
desire to recall the events of 88 november and
finger's role in same...

--dan


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