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Re: just bitten by the babbling talk's

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steinar Haug)
Wed Nov 9 06:11:34 1994

Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 10:29:07 +0100 (MET)
From: Steinar Haug <Steinar.Haug@runit.sintef.no>
To: Eric Berggren <eric@ee.pdx.edu>
Cc: bugtraq@fc.net
In-Reply-To: <9411090748.AA12462@crow.cs.pdx.edu>

>   we received a call from our provider noc today indicating their links
> were saturated as a result of one of our hosts. we tracked it down to
> a "talk" program that had been running for 1.5 days (the noc only
> indicated about 4 hours of the intense activity when they called). it
> looked legit with no obvious malicious intentions (we didn't find any
> questionable looking programs such as "flash" or "talk" ) :
> 
> xxxxx      814 34.8  0.4   84  252 ?  R    Nov  6336:04 talk aakhtar orion.it.lu
> c.edu
> 
> anything new on this ?

We had the same thing happen here last year. A talk process was trying to
send lots of UDP traffic to an unreachable port. Typically:

22:11:43.005886 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.005994 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.006097 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.006562 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.007048 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.007611 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.007695 viper.edb.tih.no > eik5.idt.unit.no: icmp: viper.edb.tih.no udp port talk unreachable
22:11:43.007962 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76
22:11:43.008083 eik5.idt.unit.no.3056 > viper.edb.tih.no.talk: udp 76

It was able to completely swamp a 64 kbit/s line. From what we could see,
this was not done with any malicious intent - we believe it happened due
to a bug in talk.

Steinar Haug, SINTEF RUNIT, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@runit.sintef.no

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