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Re: [ATN-4] More greeter candidates; vote today please
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Quentin Smith)
Thu Jan 22 13:18:00 2009
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:16:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Quentin Smith <quentin@MIT.EDU>
To: Tim Abbott <tabbott@mit.edu>
cc: Nelson Elhage <nelhage@mit.edu>, Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>,
William Cattey <wdc@mit.edu>, Athena 10 <athena10@mit.edu>,
Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@mit.edu>
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I agree with Nelson; I prefer solid-border, then no-border. I definitely
dislike no-feather, and I really dislike the original (screenshot.jpg).
Have we talked about the text at the bottom of the screen? I think having
that amount of text on the login screen is going to distract the user,
especially when it's not even significantly important text.
--Quentin
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Tim Abbott wrote:
> I think I prefer no-border; I'm indifferent between solid-border and
> no-feather.
>
> -Tim Abbott
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Nelson Elhage wrote:
>
>> I think I prefer solid-border, followed by no-border, and then
>> no-feather.
>>
>> - Nelson
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:41:00AM -0500, Jonathan Reed wrote:
>>> I have created 3 more alternatives:
>>> (For some reason, when viewed in eye-of-gnome, all these PNGs look
>>> slightly blurred, but there is in fact no "blurriness" or feathering on
>>> any of the borders. They look fine when gdm displays them.)
>>>
>>> -screenshot-no-feather.png which removes the feathering around the
>>> gradient.
>>> -screenshot-solid-border.png which replaces the gradient border with a
>>> slightly darker shade of red.
>>> -screenshot-no-border.png which removes the gradient entirely
>>>
>>> The files are attachments to ATN-4 in Jira, and also appear in /mit/
>>> jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/
>>>
>>> They are listed above in my order of preference from most preferred to
>>> least preferred.
>>>
>>> Other people should rank them in order of preference (or tell me that
>>> you don't care). Preferably today, so that we can close this issue and I
>>> will package up the complete theme before tomorrow at noon.
>>>
>>> The background is still solid. Again, someone who knows and uses
>>> Inkscape or Illustrator or something which can export SVGs should feel
>>> free to create one, but I don't think that's a blocking issue.
>>>
>>> -Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:09 PM, William Cattey wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had the clue, I'd sit down in inkscape and create two png's:
>>>>
>>>> 1. A texture map to replace the solid background.
>>>> 2. A version of the box around the login dialog that has a harder edge
>>>> around it.
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hm, maybe I'm biased here, but I don't really see the advantage over
>>>>> the present theme. It keeps the same garish giant red background
>>>>> (which will only be more imposing on widescreen cluster machines),
>>>>> although I do like punting the other UI elements from the center. I'm
>>>>> also not a huge fan of the gradient and the fuzziness around it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested to see some texture or full-screen abstract design
>>>>> in the background.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bar at the bottom with buttons and icons at the bottom and a
>>>>> date in the bottom right has a too-strong resemblance to gnome-panel
>>>>> or somesuch. I do agree with comments elsewhere in the thread
>>>>> concurring with the move to Gtk-native or at least non-flat buttons;
>>>>> my design explicitly aped Athena 9's login screen and the website's
>>>>> color and font scheme, and didn't try to be visually appealing in its
>>>>> own right.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Geoffrey Thomas
>>>>> geofft@mit.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Jonathan D Reed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> athena-10-fuzzbox.png which gets rid of the maroon background,
>>>>>>> which gets rid of the blurring around the Debathena owl, but not
>>>>>>> the login window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /mit/jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/athena10-alt-theme.tgz keeps the
>>>>>> backgronud and gets rid of the feathering. screenshot-alt.jpg in
>>>>>> the same directory is the screenshot, and I've uploaded a PNG
>>>>>> version to Jira.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> athena-10-whiteroom.png which gets rid of both the background and
>>>>>>> the box around the login window.
>>>>>>> The whiteroom alternative looks rather clean. Is it too sterile?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's way too sterile, to the point that it looks
>>>>>> monochrome, but that's just me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, I'm happy to replace the background with an SVG if you want
>>>>>> more texture, but I don't have the time to learn Inkscape right
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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