[882] in athena10
Re: [ATN-4] More greeter candidates; vote today please
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Cattey)
Thu Jan 22 10:43:26 2009
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From: William Cattey <wdc@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:42:36 -0500
To: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>
I just appended the following comment into the issue in jira:
Jon, Thank you for those 3 new alternatives. I found them very
interesting.
For my own part, I found the one without the border almost "cheezy".
I guess that border really does add something that, for me at least,
made the display appear "more refined".
The solid border was also very interesting. Even though I knew the
border was the same color, my eye kept finding variation around it. I
think this alternative should be discarded for no other reason than
it seems to create eye fatigue.
The alternative with no feathering was the next refinement I was
contemplating. I believed it would be an improvement, and the actual
presentation confirmed rather than contradicted that belief.
"screenshot-no-feather" is my current favorite.
-Bill
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Reed wrote:
> I have created 3 more alternatives:
> (For some reason, when viewed in eye-of-gnome, all these PNGs look
> slightly blurred, but there is in fact no "blurriness" or
> feathering on any of the borders. They look fine when gdm displays
> them.)
>
> -screenshot-no-feather.png which removes the feathering around the
> gradient.
> -screenshot-solid-border.png which replaces the gradient border
> with a slightly darker shade of red.
> -screenshot-no-border.png which removes the gradient entirely
>
> The files are attachments to ATN-4 in Jira, and also appear in /mit/
> jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/
>
> They are listed above in my order of preference from most preferred
> to least preferred.
>
> Other people should rank them in order of preference (or tell me
> that you don't care). Preferably today, so that we can close this
> issue and I will package up the complete theme before tomorrow at
> noon.
>
> The background is still solid. Again, someone who knows and uses
> Inkscape or Illustrator or something which can export SVGs should
> feel free to create one, but I don't think that's a blocking issue.
>
> -Jon
>
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:09 PM, William Cattey wrote:
>
>> If I had the clue, I'd sit down in inkscape and create two png's:
>>
>> 1. A texture map to replace the solid background.
>> 2. A version of the box around the login dialog that has a harder
>> edge around it.
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Hm, maybe I'm biased here, but I don't really see the advantage
>>> over the present theme. It keeps the same garish giant red
>>> background (which will only be more imposing on widescreen
>>> cluster machines), although I do like punting the other UI
>>> elements from the center. I'm also not a huge fan of the gradient
>>> and the fuzziness around it.
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to see some texture or full-screen abstract
>>> design in the background.
>>>
>>> The bar at the bottom with buttons and icons at the bottom and a
>>> date in the bottom right has a too-strong resemblance to gnome-
>>> panel or somesuch. I do agree with comments elsewhere in the
>>> thread concurring with the move to Gtk-native or at least non-
>>> flat buttons; my design explicitly aped Athena 9's login screen
>>> and the website's color and font scheme, and didn't try to be
>>> visually appealing in its own right.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geoffrey Thomas
>>> geofft@mit.edu
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Jonathan D Reed wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> athena-10-fuzzbox.png which gets rid of the maroon background,
>>>>> which gets rid of the blurring around the Debathena owl, but
>>>>> not the login window.
>>>>
>>>> /mit/jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/athena10-alt-theme.tgz keeps the
>>>> backgronud and gets rid of the feathering. screenshot-alt.jpg
>>>> in the same directory is the screenshot, and I've uploaded a PNG
>>>> version to Jira.
>>>>
>>>>> athena-10-whiteroom.png which gets rid of both the background
>>>>> and the box around the login window.
>>>>> The whiteroom alternative looks rather clean. Is it too sterile?
>>>>
>>>> I think it's way too sterile, to the point that it looks
>>>> monochrome, but that's just me.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I'm happy to replace the background with an SVG if you
>>>> want more texture, but I don't have the time to learn Inkscape
>>>> right now.
>>>>
>>>> -Jon
>>>>
>>
>
