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Re: ATN-4: Prettier greeter: jdreed did a mock-up.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Wed Jan 21 23:09:19 2009

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From: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@MIT.EDU>
To: Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@mit.edu>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:08:21 -0500

It's worth nothing that this was on the agenda for release team today,  
and we decided to go with Friday's mockup (screenshot-alt.png in  
Jira), at least for now.  That having been said, I will preview one  
more mockup tomorrow.  In addition I think we can probably tweak the  
login screen between now and June.

> Hm, maybe I'm biased here, but I don't really see the advantage over  
> the present theme. It keeps the same garish giant red background  
> (which will only be more imposing on widescreen cluster machines),  
> although I do like punting the other UI elements from the center.  
> I'm also not a huge fan of the gradient and the fuzziness around it.

The present theme was a good choice for Debathena, because it made it  
look less intimidating and more familiar to Athena 9 users.  However,  
it was decided that we want to make Athena 10 more visually distinct  
from Athena 9, and move away from the xdm/xlogin look and feel.

As for the gradient, I have created one more mockup with the gradient,  
but no feathering ("blurring").  I will post a screenshot of it  
tomorrow morning, since gdmflexiserver apparently fails miserably over  
both remote X11 sessions and VNC.

> I'd be interested to see some texture or full-screen abstract design  
> in the background.

So would I.  Someone should design one, preferably an SVG, so we don't  
constrain ourselves to one resolution or aspect ratio.

> The bar at the bottom with buttons and icons at the bottom and a  
> date in the bottom right has a too-strong resemblance to gnome-panel  
> or somesuch.

And as such provides a natural place on the screen where users might  
look for widgets, such as the Session and Actions buttons.

> I do agree with comments elsewhere in the thread concurring with the  
> move to Gtk-native or at least non-flat buttons; my design  
> explicitly aped Athena 9's login screen and the website's color and  
> font scheme, and didn't try to be visually appealing in its own right.

Noted.  The design of a new theme arose out of a desire to make Athena  
10 visually different from Athena 9, and is not intended to be a  
criticism of your theme.

-Jon

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