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Re: elliptic curve pkinit?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bob McElrath)
Mon Apr 3 11:24:16 2017

From: Bob McElrath <bob@vidaidentity.com>
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 15:24:01 +0000
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We are using MIT Kerberos with PKINIT using certificates using the secp256k1 curve.  It works fine.  I believe the certificates can be signed with any elliptic curve that openssl knows how to verify.

Internally the MIT implementation uses ephemeral Diffie-Hellman on RSA.  Perhaps that is what Greg meant with his "no" answer?
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Subject: Re: elliptic curve pkinit?

Hey,


> Has MIT kerberos implemented pkinit with elliptic curve certs/keys?  Some initial searching points me to an informational ietf RFC posted out there, but nothing official.

FWIW, in the ARPA2 project we're working on Realm Crossover (based on
DANE/DNSSEC) which uses ECDHE.  The protocol is almost compatible with
PKINIT, but not quite on account of a technicality (no tickets in the
reply).  The work leaves openings for client-to-KDC access, but doesn't
fill them in.


http://k5wiki.kerberos.org/wiki/Projects/Realm_Crossover_between_KDCs
http://realm-xover.arpa2.net/kerberos.html

A glimpse at upcoming software (and the earlier PoC) are on
https://github.com/arpa2/kxover

-Rick
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