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Re: local users can panic linux kernel (was: SuSE syslogdadvisory)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Goetz Babin-Ebell)
Wed Nov 24 13:12:32 1999

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At 17:21 23.11.99 -0500, Shafik Yaghmour wrote:
>	So if you have a high system load it is okay to have some of the
>syslog messages lost? Hmm, I dunno, IMHO it is never okay, I mean why
>should you open up the opportunity at all. You know, security based on
>something being "not so prone to failure" doesn't exactly make me feel
>warm and cozy.

For the connection of syslogd there seems to be two solutions:

* datagram sockets / connection less:
  - messages could get lost on transport
  + no resource exhaustion possible,
    malicious client can't bring service down
* stream sockets / connection based:
  + no messages could get lost on transport
  - resource exhaustion possible,
    malicious client can bring service down

Both solutions have advantages and disadvantages.

By

Goetz

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