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Re: Imagex
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joanne Pohlman)
Fri Feb 10 10:58:12 2012
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thanks for the details - this is great! I cannot wait to try it!
Joanne
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Doughty, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu>wrote:
> We have the machines join the AD automatically using entries in the
> unattend.xml (we sysprep our machines), then they run a script I wrote to
> look up their own MAC addresses and rename themselves to what they're
> supposed to be.
>
> So the whole process is:
>
>
> 1. Tech boots machine to PXE, which loads the 'Windows Installer' from
> WDS server.
> 2. Tech selects image and deletes all partitions.
> 3. Computer reimages.
> 4. Computer auto-joins AD in specific lab OU. Has random name.
> 5. Computer looks itself up and renames to the correct name.
> 6. Computer reboots after a few minutes and is good-to-use.
>
> Basically, the technician only has to boot to the network and select the
> image, once they pull the trigger they can walk away. The only caveat is
> that someone has to delete the existing computer objects in AD before the
> script renames the machine, otherwise there's a conflict. That might just
> be an AD permissions issue.
>
> - Marc Doughty
> "If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
> vessel."
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joanne Pohlman <jmpohlma@owu.edu> wrote:
>
>> How much work do you have after the image is complete? I am thinking
>> about it for my Windows7 labs, but now we have to visit each one, re-name
>> them, and add again to Domain. It's a lot of work, especially in the
>> larger labs.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Joanne
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Doughty, Marc <marc_doughty@brown.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> We do things totally by-the-book with imagex. I actually use 'gimagex'
>>> most of the time since it's easier.
>>>
>>> It's important to remember that WIMs are more like ZIP archives than
>>> images. You need to do all your partitioning and formatting separately from
>>> your ImageX'ing.
>>>
>>> As far as comparison to Ghost... ImageX is a whole different kind of
>>> beast, and I love it. The single-instance storage of files internally means
>>> that I can pack six or seven images into the space that used to fit two. I
>>> can do fast incremental backups. I can edit the image on-the-fly and add
>>> updates or drivers.
>>>
>>> If you're going down this path, I highly suggest getting VMWare
>>> Workstation to build your images in a VM that you can snapshot, and get a
>>> WDS server up and running so you don't have to image manually.
>>>
>>> - Marc Doughty
>>> "If you aren't sure who is the give-way vessel, you are the give-way
>>> vessel."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Joanne Pohlman <jmpohlma@owu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone using imagex to create images? If so, how does it compare to
>>>> Ghost?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Joanne
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joanne M. Pohlman
>>>> Technical Support Specialist/Lab Manager
>>>> Information Services
>>>> Ohio Wesleyan University
>>>> 740-368-3133
>>>> jmpohlma@owu.edu
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>>
>> --
>> Joanne M. Pohlman
>> Technical Support Specialist/Lab Manager
>> Information Services
>> Ohio Wesleyan University
>> 740-368-3133
>> jmpohlma@owu.edu
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thanks for the details - this is great!=A0 I cannot wait to try it!<br><br>=
Joanne<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM, =
Doughty, Marc <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:marc_doughty@brown.ed=
u">marc_doughty@brown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We have the machines join the AD automatical=
ly using entries in the unattend.xml (we sysprep our machines), then they r=
un a script I wrote to look up their own MAC addresses and rename themselve=
s to what they're supposed to be.<br>
<br>So the whole process is:<br><br><ol><li>Tech boots machine to PXE, whic=
h loads the 'Windows Installer' from WDS server.</li><li>Tech selec=
ts image and deletes all partitions.</li><li>Computer reimages.</li><li>
Computer auto-joins AD in specific lab OU. Has random name.</li><li>Compute=
r looks itself up and renames to the correct name.</li><li>Computer reboots=
after a few minutes and is good-to-use.</li></ol><p>Basically, the technic=
ian only has to boot to the network and select the image, once they pull th=
e trigger they can walk away. The only caveat is that someone has to delete=
the existing computer objects in AD before the script renames the machine,=
otherwise there's a conflict. That might just be an AD permissions iss=
ue.<br>
</p><br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is the give-way =
vessel, you are the give-way vessel."<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joanne =
Pohlman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jmpohlma@owu.edu" target=3D=
"_blank">jmpohlma@owu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">
How much work do you have after the image is complete?=A0 I am thinking abo=
ut it for my Windows7 labs, but now we have to visit each one, re-name them=
, and add again to Domain.=A0 It's a lot of work, especially in the lar=
ger labs.<br>
<br>thanks,<br>Joanne<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Feb 9,=
2012 at 4:40 PM, Doughty, Marc <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mar=
c_doughty@brown.edu" target=3D"_blank">marc_doughty@brown.edu</a>></span=
> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We do things totally by-the-book with imagex. I actually use 'gimagex&#=
39; most of the time since it's easier.<br><br>It's important to re=
member that WIMs are more like ZIP archives than images. You need to do all=
your partitioning and formatting separately from your ImageX'ing.<br>
<br>As far as comparison to Ghost... ImageX is a whole different kind of be=
ast, and I love it. The single-instance storage of files internally means t=
hat I can pack six or seven images into the space that used to fit two. I c=
an do fast incremental backups. I can edit the image on-the-fly and add upd=
ates or drivers.<br>
<br>If you're going down this path, I highly suggest getting VMWare Wor=
kstation to build your images in a VM that you can snapshot, and get a WDS =
server up and running so you don't have to image manually.<br clear=3D"=
all">
<br>- Marc Doughty<br>"If you aren't sure who is the give-way vess=
el, you are the give-way vessel."<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Joanne P=
ohlman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jmpohlma@owu.edu" target=3D"=
_blank">jmpohlma@owu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
Anyone using imagex to create images?=A0 If so, how does it compare to Ghos=
t?<br>Thanks,<br>Joanne<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all"><br>=
-- <br>Joanne M. Pohlman<br>Technical Support Specialist/Lab Manager<br>
Information Services <br>Ohio Wesleyan University<br>
<a href=3D"tel:740-368-3133" value=3D"+17403683133" target=3D"_blank">740-3=
68-3133</a><br><a href=3D"mailto:jmpohlma@owu.edu" target=3D"_blank">jmpohl=
ma@owu.edu</a><br>
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br>Joanne M. Pohlman<br>Technical Support Specialist/Lab Manager<br>Informa=
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