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Re: Mac Lab Dual Boot
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chuck Steel)
Tue Jan 29 08:43:52 2013
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You make some valid points, Jeremy. In almost all of our cases we were
upgrading labs that are used for training purposes. In order to maximize
the potential for classes that can be taught in the rooms it was decided to
setup dual boot systems so that we can train on packages that are available
on either platform (in addition to providing training on the operating
systems themselves).
The added complications of setting up a lab as dual boot should be enough
to not configure a lab in this way unless there is a demonstrated need.
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Chuck Steel
Dickinson College
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jeremy Mlazovsky
<jmlazovsky1@udayton.edu>wrote:
> Unless there is a need for a Mac in a computer lab (I.e. we need to
> provide software which only works in OS X), then I do not purchase Macs for
> my unit's computer labs. We have a number of Mac Pro towers and iMacs
> which dual boot into Windows for courses which use 3D Studio Max; otherwise
> the labs which need OS X have Macs and the rest of the labs have HP small
> form factor desktops.
>
> If it weren't for 3D Studio Max (Windows only) those few dual booting Mac
> Pro Towers and iMacs would never boot into Windows. In my experience, many
> people tend to hiss like a vampire coming into contact with a cross or
> garlic if you so much as suggest adding Windows onto an Apple computer.
> It's kind of humorous.
>
> My recommendation is to make sure you have a solid business reason to
> consider dual booting. If you need OS X, do you need Windows and vice
> versa? If they are going to be used primarily for one of the two OS's save
> yourself effort and your students boot time and just choose pick one.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeremy Mlazovsky
> Director of Information Technology
> College of Arts and Sciences
> University of Dayton
> 300 College Park
> Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206
> 937-229-2166
>
> Please contact the UDit Call Center (937-229-3888) for service requests.
>
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Richard Musal <richard.musal@manhattan.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Hello All
> My supervisor has asked me to investigate replacing one of our PC labs
> with a Mac lab. This lab would dual boot Windows.
>
> My thinking is use boot camp, get a keyboard (
> http://matias.ca/usb2keyboard/index.php) that has keys for both OSes, use
> a Mac mini with great specs.
>
> Just want to see if anyone has done this already. If yes:
>
> Any pit falls I need to look out for?
>
> Is my logic sound or is there a better way?
>
> Would virtualization of windows make more sense using something like
> parallels?
>
> Thank you for your assistance
> Rich
>
> ________________________
> Richard A. Musal, M.A., P.D.
> Assistant Director of Client Services & Operations
> Information Technology Services
> Manhattan College
> Riverdale, NY 10471
> Phone: 718-862-7933
> richard.musal@manhattan.edu
> www.manhattan.edu
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You make some valid points, Jeremy. In almost all of our c=
ases we were upgrading labs that are used for training purposes. In order t=
o maximize the potential for classes that can be taught in the rooms it was=
decided to setup dual boot systems so that we can train on packages that a=
re available on either platform (in addition to providing training on the o=
perating systems themselves).=A0<div>
<br></div><div>The added complications of setting up a lab as dual boot sho=
uld be enough to not configure a lab in this way unless there is a demonstr=
ated need.</div><div><br></div><div>--=A0</div><div style>Chuck Steel</div>
<div style>Dickinson College</div><div style><br></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:=
39 PM, Jeremy Mlazovsky <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jmlazovsky1=
@udayton.edu" target=3D"_blank">jmlazovsky1@udayton.edu</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Unless there is a nee=
d for a Mac in a computer lab (I.e. we need to provide software which only =
works in OS X), then I do not purchase Macs for my unit's computer labs=
. =A0We have a number of Mac Pro towers and iMacs which dual boot into Wind=
ows for courses which use 3D Studio Max; otherwise the labs which need OS X=
have Macs and the rest of the labs have HP small form factor desktops.</di=
v>
<div><br></div><div>If it weren't for 3D Studio Max (Windows only) thos=
e few dual booting Mac Pro Towers and iMacs would never boot into Windows. =
=A0In my experience, many people tend to hiss like a vampire coming into co=
ntact with a cross or garlic if you so much as suggest adding Windows onto =
an Apple computer. =A0It's kind of humorous.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My recommendation is to make sure you have a solid busi=
ness reason to consider dual booting. =A0If you need OS X, do you need Wind=
ows and vice versa? =A0If they are going to be used primarily for one of th=
e two OS's save yourself effort and your students boot time and just ch=
oose pick one.<br>
<br>Thanks.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><d=
iv>Jeremy Mlazovsky</div></font></span><div class=3D"im"><div>Director of I=
nformation Technology</div><div>College of Arts and Sciences</div><div>Univ=
ersity of Dayton</div>
<div>300 College Park</div><div>Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206</div>
<div><a href=3D"tel:937-229-2166" value=3D"+19372292166" target=3D"_blank">=
937-229-2166</a></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"im"><div>Please co=
ntact the UDit Call Center <a href=3D"tel:%28937-229-3888" value=3D"+193722=
93888" target=3D"_blank">(937-229-3888</a>) for service requests.</div>
</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:37 AM, R=
ichard Musal <<a href=3D"mailto:richard.musal@manhattan.edu" target=3D"_=
blank">richard.musal@manhattan.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Hello All</div><div>My superv=
isor has asked me to investigate replacing one of our PC labs with a Mac la=
b. This lab would dual boot Windows.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>My thinking is use boot camp, get a keyboard (<span sty=
le=3D"font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap"><a href=3D"http:/=
/matias.ca/usb2keyboard/index.php" target=3D"_blank">http://matias.ca/usb2k=
eyboard/index.php</a>)=A0</span>that has keys for both OSes, use a Mac mini=
with great specs.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just want to see if anyone has done this already. =A0If=
yes:</div><div><br></div><div>Any pit falls I need to look out for?</div><=
div><br></div><div>Is my logic sound or is there a better way?</div><div>
<br></div><div>Would virtualization of windows make more sense using someth=
ing like parallels?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your assistance<=
/div><div>Rich<br><br><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">=
________________________<br>
Richard A. Musal, M.A., P.D.<br>Assistant Director of Client Services &=
Operations<br>Information Technology Services<br>Manhattan College<br><a>R=
iverdale, NY 10471</a><br>Phone:=A0<a href=3D"tel:718-862-7933" target=3D"_=
blank">718-862-7933</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:richard.musal@manhattan.edu" target=3D"_blank">richard.mu=
sal@manhattan.edu</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.manhattan.edu/" target=3D"_b=
lank">www.manhattan.edu</a><br>___________________________<br>Sent from my =
iPhone</span></div>
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