[52253] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John M. Brown)
Sun Sep 22 18:53:26 2002

Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0700
From: "John M. Brown" <john@chagresventures.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: "John M. Brown" <john@chagresventures.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20020923002418.H44677-100000@sequoia.muada.com>; from iljitsch@muada.com on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 12:27:52AM +0200
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Same bug-ridden stuff, just better understanding, staying up with
patches, and understanding the human engineering side of things.

so maybe my absolute statement should have been..

s/prudent users don't get hacked/prudent users get hacked much less often


On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 12:27:52AM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, John M. Brown wrote:
> 
> > > a prudent user does not ssh _from_ a machine they don't control or
> 
> > prudent users don't get hacked.
> 
> Really? Care to list the bulletproof hardware and software these god-like
> creatures use, rather than the bug-ridden stuff we lesser folk have to
> make due with?
> 

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post