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Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Mar 28 19:08:41 2017

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:51:43 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:

> Has there ever been a real survey that asks people where they think
> Google gets the money to support things like Gmail for "free"?

There's a difference.  Google only gets to aggregate data you pass to Google.
Your ISP gets to aggregate data you pass to *anybody*.  The difference matters.

Consider this example from the EFF:

"They know you spoke with an HIV testing service, then your doctor, then your
health insurance company in the same hour. But they don't know what was
discussed."

And the ISP is in that same position of being able to see all 3, and allowing
anybody they sell the data to, to make conclusions.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/why-metadata-matters

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