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Re: BCP 38 coverage if top x providers ...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Florian Weimer)
Fri Mar 24 15:30:57 2017

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Laurent Dumont <admin@coldnorthadmin.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 20:30:53 +0100
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 (Laurent Dumont's message of "Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:04:43 -0400")
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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* Laurent Dumont:

> Wouldn't you want BCP38 policies to be as close as possible to the 
> traffic sources? Instead of creating more "fake" traffic?

Maybe as close as possible, but still without sacrificing source
network attribution is sufficient.

> And at the same time, partial filtering doesn't seem as a very
> effective way to fight spoofed traffic on a large scale.

That depends on the problems caused by spoofed traffic.  My hunch is
that non-policing networks emit a constant trickle of spoofed traffic
which does not cause any problems, and that traffic can be used to
detect lack of policing even without actual abuse of the spoofing
capability.

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