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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] direct vs indirect relative clauses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sun Mar 30 01:55:39 2014
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From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:55:14 -0700
To: Brad Wilson <bmacliam@aol.com>
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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That's pretty much the canonical way to use -'e' with double-headed relative=
clauses. Credit goes to HoD Qanqor for originating it.=20
> On Mar 29, 2014, at 19:10, Brad Wilson <bmacliam@aol.com> wrote:
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> Can I use the topic marker {-'e'} in the following manner?
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> 1) qama' mupbogh 'avwI''e' vIHoH =3D I killed the guard who struck the pri=
soner
> 2) qama''e' mupbogh 'avwI' vIHoH =3D I killed the prisoner whom the guard s=
truck
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> I don't think the topic marker is required in #1, but I added it for clari=
ty of comparison.
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> If so, then would the reverse also hold?
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> 3) mulegh qama' mupbogh 'avwI''e' =3D the guard who struck the prisoner se=
es me
> 4) mulegh qama''e' mupbogh 'avwI' =3D the prisoner whom the guard struck s=
ees me
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> gheyIl
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>That's pretty much the canonical way to use -'e' with double-headed relative clauses. Credit goes to HoD Qanqor for originating it. </div><div><br>On Mar 29, 2014, at 19:10, Brad Wilson <<a href="mailto:bmacliam@aol.com">bmacliam@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial">Can I use the topic marker {-'e'} in the following manner?
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<div>1) qama' mupbogh 'avwI''e' vIHoH = I killed the guard who struck the prisoner</div>
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<div>2) qama''e' mupbogh 'avwI' vIHoH = I killed the prisoner whom the guard struck</div>
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<div>I don't think the topic marker is required in #1, but I added it for clarity of comparison.</div>
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<div>If so, then would the reverse also hold?</div>
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<div>3) mulegh qama' mupbogh 'avwI''e' = the guard who struck the prisoner sees me</div>
<div>4) mulegh qama''e' mupbogh 'avwI' = <span style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">the prisoner whom the guard struck sees me</span></div>
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<div>gheyIl</div>
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