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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] The Legend of Gorath part 1

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Mar 24 10:01:20 2014

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:00:58 +0000
In-Reply-To: <532DACD1.5070506@trimboli.name>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org

Brad Wilson wrote:
>> I originally had {yItam} for "be still", but I wanted to emphasize the
>> movement not just silence, since {yItam} is used later in the story
>> specifically for silence. I overlooked {yItaD} because I was only
>> reading it in the "ice" sense.

You want to use {-choH} here: {tamchoH} "become quiet":

  yItamchoH
  Be quiet! (Become quiet!) TKD

SuStel: 
> While {yItaD} is the correct idiomatic choice in this case, be aware that
> in general when you are commanding someone with a verb of quality, you
> need to add {-'egh} and {-moH} to it: {yItam'eghmoH} "silence yourself!"
> This rule comes from KGT. {yItaD} "be frozen!, don't move!"
> is an idiomatic exception to the rule.

FYI...

KGT 117:  These are idiomatic ways to give the command "Don't move!" The word {yItaD} is used when speaking to an individual; {petaD" is used when giving the command to a group. The verb {taD} means "be frozen", and it is used here in a peculiar, though not really ungrammatical, way. Generally, when a verb describing a state of being (for example, {tuj} ["be hot"]) is used in the imperative form, the suffixes {-'egh} (reflexive suffix) and {-moH} (cause) are used as well: {yItuj'eghmoH" ("Heat yourself!" - that is, "Cause yourself to be hot!"), {yItaD'eghmoH!} ("Freeze yourself!" - that is, "Cause yourself to be frozen!").  When {taD} is used in the idiomatic sense of "not move", however, it is treated as if a verb describing an activity, such as {yIt} (walk): {yIyIt!} ("Walk!").
 


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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons



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