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[Tlhingan-hol] Story: ghuv = The Recruit - 6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sat Aug 24 12:09:07 2013
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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The story continues. Torg survived basic training in the Klingon military
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voDleHvaD matlhtaH 'e' 'IpDI' negh chu', Qu'mey wa'DIch Hev. may'Duj
<le'yo'> ghoS HochHom, 'ach Qu' pIm Hev torgh. <maQ> 'oH Qu'Daj'e'. verghDaq
lupDujHom qar nejtaHvIS, pongDaj Qoy. rI'lI' HIp tuQbe'bogh loD Sub.
First sentence: voDleHvaD matlhtaH 'e' 'IpDI' negh chu', Qu'mey wa'DIch Hev.
voDleH = emperor
-vaD = N5 - makes the noun the beneficiary of the action of the verb - it's
time to remember this one
matlh = be loyal
-taH = you're supposed to know this one now
voDleHvaD matlhtaH - he/she/it they is loyal (ongoing) to the Emperor.
'e' = indicates that the previous sentence is the object of the next verb
'Ip = swear, vow
-ta' = V7 - perfective
-DI' = V9 - when, as soon as - you should probably remember this one now,
too.
negh = soldiers (it's an irregular plural of mang)
chu' = be new - it follows negh so it acts as an adjective negh chu' = new
soldiers
'Ipta' negh chu' = "The new soldiers vowed."
voDleH matlhtaH 'e' 'IpDI' negh chu'
"As soon as the new soldiers had sworn an oath to remain loyal to the
Emperor ..."
Note that negh while having a plural meaning is grammatically singular, so
it's 'e' 'Ip and not 'e' lu'Ip.
Also note that I really want to write 'Ipta'DI' here, to denote that it's
the completion of the swearing in I'm measuring from, not the ceremony
itself, but a rule (6.2.5)prohibits me from using a V7 suffix on a verb
whose object is 'e', so I didn't. Or actually I did, as the people who read
the whole story before I sent it out already know.
Qu' = task, assignment, mission
wa' = one
-DIch = ordinal number suffix - so wa'DIch = first, which goes after the
noun it modifies.
Hev = receive
... Qu'mey wa'DIch Hev.
"... they receive first missions."
I'd like to put Qu'meychaj "their first missions" but the singular
requirement of negh makes me suspect that Qu'meyDaj might be appropriate,
and that's just weird, so I'm avoiding it.
may'Duj <le'yo'> ghoS HochHom, 'ach Qu' pIm Hev torgh.
may'Duj = battleship
le'yo' = pride
ghoS = go
HochHom = most
Qu' - mission, task, assignment, duty - you should remember that one
pIm = be different - Qu' pIm "a different mission"
Hev = receive
"Most go to the battleship "Pride" but torgh receives a different mission."
<maQ> 'oH Qu'Daj'e'.
maQ = sign, signal
'oH = it
Qu'Daj = you're supposed to know this noun and the suffix -Daj
-'e' = N5 topic marker
This is that pronoun-as-to-be sentence again, also with 'oH standing in for
"is".
"Torg's mission is "Sign"." (That doesn't make any sense to Torg, yet,
either).
verghDaq lupDujHom qar nejtaHvIS, pongDaj Qoy.
vergh = dock
-Daq = locative: in/at/on/to - if I didn't tell you to remember this one
yet, you should now.
lupDujHom = shuttlecraft
qar = be correct - it comes after the noun, so <lupDujHom qar> = "the
correct shuttlecraft"
nej = searches
-taHvIS = you know by now
pong = name
-Daj = you know
Qoy = hear
The main verb is Qoy. Nothing comes after it and it has a null prefix, so
the subject must be he/she/it - probably still Torg. The object before it is
pongDaj = his name. Everything else is context for that sentence. There's a
locative statement verghDaq - at/on/in/to the dock. It would need a verb of
motion to make it "to", and the other verb is nej so "at the dock" or "on
the dock". The subordinate clause is a little OVS clause of its own. object:
lupDujHom qar; verb: nej; subject: still he, Torg.
"While he searches for the correct shuttlecraft at the dock, he hears his
name."
Last sentence: rI'lI' HIp tuQbe'bogh loD Sub.
rI' = hail, as in "hailing frequencies open"
-lI' = v7, continuous, with a definite goal/stopping point - rI'lI' =
"she/he/it is hailing him"
HIp = uniform
tuQ = wear
loD = man
Sub = be solid - comes after the noun, so it is modifying the noun: "a solid
man"
The main verb is the one that is neither modifying a noun nor wearing a V9
suffix. So that's rI'lI'. The rest of the sentence is the subject.
Analyse it without -bogh: HIp tuQbe' loD Sub = a solid man is not wearing a
uniform
Add the -bogh back: either: a solid man who is not wearing a uniform OR a
uniform which a solid man is not wearing,
Only one makes any sense, so
"A solid man who is not wearing a uniform is hailing him."
-Qov
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">The story =
continues. Torg survived basic training in the Klingon =
military</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri"> =
...</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">voDleHvaD =
matlhtaH 'e' 'IpDI' negh chu', Qu'mey wa'DIch Hev. may'Duj =
«le'yo'» ghoS HochHom, 'ach Qu' pIm Hev =
torgh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">«maQ» 'oH Qu'Daj'e'. verghDaq lupDujHom qar =
nejtaHvIS, pongDaj Qoy. rI'lI' HIp tuQbe'bogh loD Sub.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">First sentence: =
voDleHvaD matlhtaH 'e' 'IpDI' negh chu', Qu'mey wa'DIch =
Hev.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">voDleH =3D =
emperor</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-vaD =3D N5 - =
makes the noun the beneficiary of the action of the verb – =
it’s time to remember this one</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">matlh =3D be =
loyal</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-taH =3D =
you’re supposed to know this one now</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">voDleHvaD =
matlhtaH – he/she/it they is loyal (ongoing) to the =
Emperor.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">‘e’ =
=3D indicates that the previous sentence is the object of the next =
verb</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">‘Ip =3D =
swear, vow</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-ta’ =3D =
V7 – perfective</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-DI’ =3D =
V9 – when, as soon as – you should probably remember this =
one now, too.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">negh =3D =
soldiers (it’s an irregular plural of mang)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">chu’ =3D =
be new – it follows negh so it acts as an adjective negh =
chu’ =3D new soldiers</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">‘Ipta’ negh chu’ =3D “The new =
soldiers vowed.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">voDleH matlhtaH =
‘e’ ‘IpDI’ negh chu’ </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">“As soon =
as the new soldiers had sworn an oath to remain loyal to the Emperor =
...”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Note that negh =
while having a plural meaning is grammatically singular, so =
it’s ‘e’ ‘Ip and not ‘e’ =
lu’Ip.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Also note that =
I really want to write ‘Ipta’DI’ here, to denote that =
it’s the completion of the swearing in I’m measuring from, =
not the ceremony itself, but a rule</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> =
<FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">(6.2.5)prohibits me from using a V7 suffix on a =
verb whose object is ‘e’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">, so I didn’t. Or actually I =
did, as the people who read the whole story before I sent it out already =
know.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Qu’ =3D =
task, assignment, mission</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">wa’ =3D =
one</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-DIch =3D =
ordinal number suffix – so wa’DIch =3D first, which goes =
after the noun it modifies.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Hev =3D =
receive</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">... =
Qu’mey wa’DIch Hev.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">“... they =
receive first missions.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">I’d like =
to put Qu’meychaj “their first missions” but the =
singular requirement of negh makes me suspect that Qu’meyDaj might =
be appropriate, and that’s just weird</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">, so I’m avoiding =
it.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">may'Duj =
«le'yo'» ghoS HochHom, 'ach Qu' pIm Hev =
torgh.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">may’Duj =
=3D battleship</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">le’yo’ =3D pride</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">ghoS =3D go =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">HochHom =3D =
most</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Qu’ =
– mission, task, assignment, duty – you should remember that =
one</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">pIm =3D be =
different – Qu’ pIm “a different =
mission”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Hev =3D =
receive</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">“Most go =
to the battleship “Pride” but torgh receives a different =
mission.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"fr-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">«maQ» 'oH Qu'Daj'e'.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"fr-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">maQ =3D sign, =
signal</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">‘oH =3D =
it</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Qu’Daj =
=3D you’re supposed to know this noun and the suffix =
-Daj</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">-‘e’ =3D N5 topic marker</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri"> </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">This is that =
pronoun-as-to-be sentence again, also with ‘oH standing in for =
“is”.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">“Torg’s mission is =
“Sign”.” (That doesn’t make any sense to =
Torg, yet, either).</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">verghDaq =
lupDujHom qar nejtaHvIS, pongDaj Qoy.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">vergh =3D =
dock</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-Daq =3D =
locative: in/at/on/to – if I didn’t tell you to remember =
this one yet, you should now.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">lupDujHom =3D =
shuttlecraft</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">qar =3D be =
correct – it comes after the noun, so <lupDujHom qar> =3D =
“the correct shuttlecraft”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">nej =3D =
searches</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-taHvIS =3D you =
know by now</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">pong =3D =
name</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-Daj =3D you =
know</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Qoy =3D =
hear</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">The main verb =
is Qoy. Nothing comes after it and it has a null prefix, so the subject =
must be he/she/it – probably still Torg. The object before it is =
pongDaj =3D his name. Everything else is context for that sentence. =
There’s a locative statement verghDaq – at/on/in/to the =
dock. It would need a verb of motion to make it “to”, and =
the other verb is nej so “at the dock” or “on the =
dock”. The subordinate clause is a little OVS clause of its own. =
object: lupDujHom qar; verb: nej; subject: still he, =
Torg.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">“While he =
searches for the correct shuttlecraft at the dock, he hears his =
name.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri"> =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Last =
sentence:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"> <FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">rI'lI' HIp tuQbe'bogh loD Sub.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">rI’ =3D =
hail, as in “hailing frequencies open”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">-lI’ =3D =
v7, continuous, with a definite goal/stopping point – =
rI’lI’ =3D “she/he/it is hailing =
him”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">HIp =3D uniform =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">tuQ =3D =
wear</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">loD =3D =
man</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Sub =3D be =
solid – comes after the noun, so it is modifying the noun: =
“a solid man”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">The main verb =
is the one that is neither modifying a noun nor wearing a V9 suffix. So =
that’s rI’lI’. The rest of the sentence is the =
subject.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Analyse it =
without –bogh: HIp tuQbe’ loD Sub =3D a solid man is not =
wearing a uniform</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Add the =
–bogh back: either: a solid man who is not wearing a uniform OR a =
uniform which a solid man is not wearing,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">Only one makes =
any sense, so </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT FACE=3D"Calibri">“A solid =
man who is not wearing a uniform is hailing =
him.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-ca"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Calibri">-Qov</FONT></SPAN></P>
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