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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Naming mountains
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Fri Mar 22 10:44:15 2019
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Kri'stak is consistently referred to simply as {QIStaq}.
There's also {HuDqIj}, "the Black Hills".
For non-Klingon mountains, I'd go with {<name> HuD}, following a pattern si=
milar to {voSpegh Sep} and {tlhIng yoS}.
It's also similar to the <name> + <descriptive word> pattern used for many =
Terran things, such as {Sutra'ber naH}.
Interestingly, based on EuroTalk, this qualifier is not used when describin=
g Terran countries. I suspect this is related to whether or not one expects=
the listener to know what one is talking about; we expect human Klingon-sp=
eakers to know what {DoyIchlan} is, so we don't bother calling it {DoyIchla=
n Sep}. The average Klingon probably wouldn't, so we'd call it {DoyIchlan S=
ep} or possibly even {tera' DoyIchlan Sep}.
Similarly, if we met a Klingon who had been isolated from Klingon society (=
the survivors of QI'tomer come to mind), we might need to qualify even well=
-known Klingon sights and locations, such as {QIStaq HuD} or {QIStaq qulHuD=
}.
This is just my speculation, though.
//loghaD
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Is there a Ca'NoN way of naming mountains ?
Is mount. olympus {olympus HuD} or {HuD olympus} ?
~ changan qIj
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<p>Kri'stak is consistently referred to simply as {QIStaq}.</p>
<p>There's also {HuDqIj}, "the Black Hills".<br>
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<p>For non-Klingon mountains, I'd go with {<name> HuD}, following a p=
attern similar to {voSpegh Sep} and {tlhIng yoS}.</p>
<p>It's also similar to the <name> + <descriptive word> pat=
tern used for many Terran things, such as {Sutra'ber naH}.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Interestingly, based on EuroTalk, this qualifier is not used when descri=
bing Terran countries. I suspect this is related to whether or not one=
expects the listener to know what one is talking about; we expect&nbs=
p;human Klingon-speakers to know what {DoyIchlan} is,
so we don't bother calling it {DoyIchlan Sep}. The average Klingon probabl=
y wouldn't, so we'd call it {DoyIchlan Sep} or possibly even {tera' DoyIchl=
an Sep}.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Similarly, if we met a Klingon who had been isolated from Klingon societ=
y (the survivors of QI'tomer come to mind), we might need to qualify even w=
ell-known Klingon sights and locations, such as {QIStaq HuD} or {QIStaq qul=
HuD}.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<p>This is just my speculation, though.</p>
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<p>//loghaD<br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is there a Ca'NoN way of naming mountains ?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is mount. olympus {olympus HuD} or {HuD olympus} ?</div>
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