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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some tidbits
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Mon Jul 31 17:11:24 2017
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In the Learn Klingon Facebook group, someone posted that during a game of
the Hokey Pokey, MO revealed that {muylIS} is "eyelash". Can anyone confirm
this?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/1386341591474053/?comment_id=1405196339588578
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
> I suspect Marc probably has some insight into the show, or is in contact
> with somebody who does. Otherwise, I doubt he'd reveal a word for
> "sarcophagus" and make it abundantly clear that {nev'aQ} was the word to
> use for the one seen in the show, since then there'd be a very big risk of
> contradicting whatever's already been recorded for Star Trek: Discovery
> (which I believe is all but the last few episodes by now).
>
>
> Hopefully, whoever's doing the translations for Discovery has been allowed
> to communicate with Marc at least to some degree, so that they can work out
> issues that would otherwise have been cumbersome but without making up new,
> non-vetted words.
>
>
> It's worth noting that Donatu V may also be relevant to the plot of Star
> Trek: Discovery, as this was the site of a confrontation between the
> Klingons and the Federation.
>
> This confrontation took place 23 years before The Trouble With Tribbles,
> which would put it about 12 years before Discovery, but it could still be
> referenced.
>
>
> //loghaD
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of
> nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 03:08
> *To:* tlhingan-hol@kli.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some
> tidbits
>
> Ah, so MO wasn't privy to any insider information about Klingon sarcophagi
> (and the discovery thereof). He just paid more attention to the rumors and
> trailers than I did. Do'Ha'. DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'.
>
> A few more puns:
> Duq - "be astonished, astounded, dumbfounded, shocked". Or one could
> say... "bowled over". ({Duq} also means a small bowl.)
>
> ghut - "predict, based on intuition or a wild guess". A "gut" feeling.
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
>
>> bIlugh. wa' ben tlhIngan nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn'e' 'angpu' renwI'. ngugh
>> peghtaHmo' De'vam, pu'jIn So'pu' 'ach tlhoy paS; tu'lu'pu' 'ej labqa'lu'ta'.
>>
>> http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/06/rumor-new-trek-2017-product
>> ion-designer-chosen/
>>
>> qen De'vam peghHa'lu'ta'.
>>
>> http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-gallery-
>> opens-at-comic-con
>>
>> nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn:
>> http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc-Ship.jpg
>>
>> nev'aQ nagh beQ:
>> http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc.jpg
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of
>> De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 23:19
>> To: tlhIngan-Hol
>> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some
>> tidbits
>>
>> On 29 July 2017 at 20:30, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The odd note about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if there's going to be a
>> scene
>> > with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star Trek: Discovery (that is,
>> > assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for it after all, as
>> someone
>> > suggested earlier).
>>
>> maSIvnISbe'. nev'aQ Duj tu'lu'bej. 'allaw' nev'aQ.
>>
>> (The sarcophagus is in the trailer. It's the thing that's levitating
>> in one scene.)
>>
>> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr">In the Learn Klingon Facebook group, someone posted that d=
uring a game of the Hokey Pokey, MO revealed that {muylIS} is "eyelash=
". Can anyone confirm this?<br><br><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com=
/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/1386341591474053/?comment_id=3D1405196339588=
578">https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/138634159147405=
3/?comment_id=3D1405196339588578</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Felix Malmenb=
eck <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" target=3D"_blank=
">felixm@kth.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ff=
ffff;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p>I suspect Marc probably has some insight into the show, or is in contact=
with somebody who does. Otherwise, I doubt he'd reveal a word for &quo=
t;sarcophagus" and make it abundantly clear that {nev'aQ} was the =
word to use for the one seen in the show, since then
there'd be a very big risk of contradicting whatever's already bee=
n recorded for Star Trek: Discovery (which I believe is all but the last fe=
w episodes by now).</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Hopefully, whoever's doing the translations for Discovery has been a=
llowed to communicate with Marc at least to some degree, so that they can w=
ork out issues that would otherwise have been cumbersome but without making=
up new, non-vetted words.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>It's worth noting that Donatu V may also be relevant to the plot of =
Star Trek: Discovery, as this was the site of a confrontation between the K=
lingons and the Federation.</p>
<p>This confrontation took place 23 years before The Trouble With Tribbles,=
which would put it about 12 years before Discovery, but it could still be =
referenced.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>//loghaD<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
tlhIngan-Hol <<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org" tar=
get=3D"_blank">tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.<wbr>kli.org</a>> on behalf of=
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lay0@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 31, 2017 03:08<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target=3D"_blank">tlhing=
an-hol@kli.org</a><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New w=
ords and some tidbits</div></div></font>
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<div>Ah, so MO wasn't privy to any insider information about Klingon sa=
rcophagi (and the discovery thereof). He just paid more attention to the ru=
mors and trailers than I did. Do'Ha'. DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI=
9; ghu'.<br>
<br>
</div>
A few more puns:<br>
</div>
Duq - "be astonished, astounded, dumbfounded, shocked". Or one co=
uld say... "bowled over". ({Duq} also means a small bowl.)<br>
<br>
</div>
ghut - "predict, based on intuition or a wild guess". A "gut=
" feeling.<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Felix Malmenbec=
k <span dir=3D"ltr">
<<a href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" target=3D"_blank">felixm@kth.se</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
bIlugh. wa' ben tlhIngan nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn'e' 'angp=
u' renwI'. ngugh peghtaHmo' De'vam, pu'jIn So'pu=
9; 'ach tlhoy paS; tu'lu'pu' 'ej labqa'lu'ta=
9;.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/06/rumor-new-trek-2017-production-=
designer-chosen/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://trekcore.com/=
blog/2016/<wbr>06/rumor-new-trek-2017-product<wbr>ion-designer-chosen/</a><=
br>
<br>
qen De'vam peghHa'lu'ta'.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-gallery-open=
s-at-comic-con" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.co=
m/articl<wbr>e/star-trek-discovery-gallery-<wbr>opens-at-comic-con</a><br>
<br>
nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc-Ship.=
jpg" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.com/upload<wb=
r>s/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc-<wbr>Ship.jpg</a><br>
<br>
nev'aQ nagh beQ:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc.jpg" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.com/upload<wbr>s/a=
ssets/articles/Photo-Sarc.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 23:19<br>
To: tlhIngan-Hol<br>
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words an=
d some tidbits<br>
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On 29 July 2017 at 20:30, nIqolay Q <<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay0@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The odd note about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if there's going t=
o be a scene<br>
> with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star Trek: Discovery (that is,<=
br>
> assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for it after all, as some=
one<br>
> suggested earlier).<br>
<br>
maSIvnISbe'. nev'aQ Duj tu'lu'bej. 'allaw' nev'=
aQ.<br>
<br>
(The sarcophagus is in the trailer. It's the thing that's levitatin=
g<br>
in one scene.)<br>
<br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
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