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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some tidbits
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sun Jul 30 21:24:15 2017
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I suspect Marc probably has some insight into the show, or is in contact wi=
th somebody who does. Otherwise, I doubt he'd reveal a word for "sarcophagu=
s" and make it abundantly clear that {nev'aQ} was the word to use for the o=
ne seen in the show, since then there'd be a very big risk of contradicting=
whatever's already been recorded for Star Trek: Discovery (which I believe=
is all but the last few episodes by now).
Hopefully, whoever's doing the translations for Discovery has been allowed =
to communicate with Marc at least to some degree, so that they can work out=
issues that would otherwise have been cumbersome but without making up new=
, non-vetted words.
It's worth noting that Donatu V may also be relevant to the plot of Star Tr=
ek: Discovery, as this was the site of a confrontation between the Klingons=
and the Federation.
This confrontation took place 23 years before The Trouble With Tribbles, wh=
ich would put it about 12 years before Discovery, but it could still be ref=
erenced.
//loghaD
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Ah, so MO wasn't privy to any insider information about Klingon sarcophagi =
(and the discovery thereof). He just paid more attention to the rumors and =
trailers than I did. Do'Ha'. DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'.
A few more puns:
Duq - "be astonished, astounded, dumbfounded, shocked". Or one could say...=
"bowled over". ({Duq} also means a small bowl.)
ghut - "predict, based on intuition or a wild guess". A "gut" feeling.
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se<mailto:fel=
ixm@kth.se>> wrote:
bIlugh. wa' ben tlhIngan nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn'e' 'angpu' renwI'. ngugh peghtaH=
mo' De'vam, pu'jIn So'pu' 'ach tlhoy paS; tu'lu'pu' 'ej labqa'lu'ta'.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/06/rumor-new-trek-2017-production-designer-ch=
osen/
qen De'vam peghHa'lu'ta'.
http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-gallery-opens-at-comic-=
con
nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn:
http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc-Ship.jpg
nev'aQ nagh beQ:
http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc.jpg
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some tidbi=
ts
On 29 July 2017 at 20:30, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gma=
il.com>> wrote:
> The odd note about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if there's going to be a scen=
e
> with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star Trek: Discovery (that is,
> assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for it after all, as someone
> suggested earlier).
maSIvnISbe'. nev'aQ Duj tu'lu'bej. 'allaw' nev'aQ.
(The sarcophagus is in the trailer. It's the thing that's levitating
in one scene.)
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<p>I suspect Marc probably has some insight into the show, or is in contact=
with somebody who does. Otherwise, I doubt he'd reveal a word for "sa=
rcophagus" and make it abundantly clear that {nev'aQ} was the word to =
use for the one seen in the show, since then
there'd be a very big risk of contradicting whatever's already been record=
ed for Star Trek: Discovery (which I believe is all but the last few episod=
es by now).</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Hopefully, whoever's doing the translations for Discovery has been allow=
ed to communicate with Marc at least to some degree, so that they can work =
out issues that would otherwise have been cumbersome but without making up =
new, non-vetted words.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>It's worth noting that Donatu V may also be relevant to the plot of Star=
Trek: Discovery, as this was the site of a confrontation between the Kling=
ons and the Federation.</p>
<p>This confrontation took place 23 years before The Trouble With Tribbles,=
which would put it about 12 years before Discovery, but it could still be =
referenced.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>//loghaD<br>
</p>
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<div>Ah, so MO wasn't privy to any insider information about Klingon sarcop=
hagi (and the discovery thereof). He just paid more attention to the rumors=
and trailers than I did. Do'Ha'. DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'.<br>
<br>
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A few more puns:<br>
</div>
Duq - "be astonished, astounded, dumbfounded, shocked". Or one co=
uld say... "bowled over". ({Duq} also means a small bowl.)<br>
<br>
</div>
ghut - "predict, based on intuition or a wild guess". A "gut=
" feeling.<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Felix Malmenbec=
k <span dir=3D"ltr">
<<a href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" target=3D"_blank">felixm@kth.se</a>>=
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px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
bIlugh. wa' ben tlhIngan nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn'e' 'angpu' renwI'. ngugh peghtaH=
mo' De'vam, pu'jIn So'pu' 'ach tlhoy paS; tu'lu'pu' 'ej labqa'lu'ta'.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/06/rumor-new-trek-2017-production-=
designer-chosen/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://trekcore.com/=
blog/2016/<wbr>06/rumor-new-trek-2017-<wbr>production-designer-chosen/</a><=
br>
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qen De'vam peghHa'lu'ta'.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-gallery-open=
s-at-comic-con" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.co=
m/<wbr>article/star-trek-discovery-<wbr>gallery-opens-at-comic-con</a><br>
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nev'aQ Duj pu'jIn:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc-Ship.=
jpg" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.com/<wbr>uplo=
ads/assets/articles/Photo-<wbr>Sarc-Ship.jpg</a><br>
<br>
nev'aQ nagh beQ:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Photo-Sarc.jpg" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.startrek.com/<wbr>uploads/a=
ssets/articles/Photo-<wbr>Sarc.jpg</a><br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' cha'maH loSDIch New words and some tidbi=
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On 29 July 2017 at 20:30, nIqolay Q <<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay0@gmail.co=
m">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The odd note about {nev'aQ} makes me wonder if there's going to be a s=
cene<br>
> with a Klingon sarcophagus in space in Star Trek: Discovery (that is,<=
br>
> assuming MO did get asked to do some Klingon for it after all, as some=
one<br>
> suggested earlier).<br>
<br>
maSIvnISbe'. nev'aQ Duj tu'lu'bej. 'allaw' nev'aQ.<br>
<br>
(The sarcophagus is in the trailer. It's the thing that's levitating<br>
in one scene.)<br>
<br>
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De'vID<br>
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